Posted tagged ‘IBEC’

Universities and the avoidance of duplication

April 7, 2010

In recent debates on higher education, a question that has repeatedly been asked is whether there is too much duplication within the Irish university system. In other words, the question is being asked whether the existence of the same or similar programmes of study or research in different universities represents a wasteful inefficiency that should be brought to an end. This is how the issue is put in the submission to the higher education strategic review by the Irish Business and Employers’ Confederation (IBEC):

‘To achieve [internationally recognised] status, the core focus should be on differentiation and excellence in unique areas of academia and research and by implication avoidance of duplication of courses and research.  Such a strategy reflects government priorities within the Smart Economy strategy and within the Strategy for Science Technology and Innovation.  The perception of business is that inflating student numbers within HEIs has taken precedence over striving for excellence. This may have eroded quality within the sector over recent years.  There is a need for some institutions to become more practically focused on science and technology, by delivering more emphasis on high quality practical experiments and that, this experience takes place as part of the course.  A specific recommendation is where a duplication of faculties across different HEIs in close proximity occurs, that a merger should take place to create one shared faculty.  This would be most relevant where the faculties are small and where there would be obvious practical and administrative benefits.’

Similar points have been made by others. The Higher Education Authority (HEA) itself, in its submission to the review, suggested the following:

‘Light touch regulation has also resulted in unnecessary and inefficient duplication in programme provision; ‘mission creep’; inflexible staffing structures and practices; and a set of institutions which to a very great extent stand apart and aloof from each other. Collectively, our higher education institutions represent a very valuable national resource and it is imperative for Ireland’s economic and social development that its full potential be realised.’

There are a few questions that should be asked in relation to such analysis. First, are these statements factually correct – in other words, is there really a level of wasteful duplication of the kind being suggested? Secondly, even if this is the case, what is the remedy? Can a solution be applied that does not violate the principle of institutional autonomy? In so far as these comments suggest that the state or its agencies should produce a solution, who exactly should make the judgement about what provision amounts to duplication and how this could be resolved?

None of these questions are actually easy to answer. Even the factual one – i.e., whether there is duplication – is tricky. For example, I think all Irish universities have an engineering department, school or Faculty. Should there only be one? Or should there be several, but each one focusing on a different sub-set of engineering? If so, how do students gain an initial overall grounding in engineering? And who decides which institution should do what? The latter question raises the autonomy principle – can this question be addressed at all by anyone other than the universities themselves?

It may be that what is in people’s minds may be that where there are subjects that might be described as attracting minority interest only – let us say, Italian, or Russian, or forestry – that these should only be offered by one or a small number of universities. But again, who decides?

It seems to me that these are complex matters, though I would agree that they need to be addressed, and the universities need to engage in active discussions with each other about it. But, in my opinion at least, the worst possible way of addressing them would be to bureaucratise the issue, and to have some central agency taking decisions about the ‘correct’ distribution of subject areas. Apart from the likelihood that such a centralised approach will get it wrong, it would also mean the end of the notion of autonomous universities that can develop their own strategic priorities, and the initiation of a centrally planned and organised university system on a Soviet Communist model. I don’t believe that one was a winner.

Universities and the social partners

September 23, 2009

Over the past two decades, Ireland’s economic growth and social stability has been built on the framework of social partnership. Regular negotiations between the government, the employers, the trade unions and some other interest groups have produced agreements that have regulated pay but also secured developments and changes in social and economic policy. These agreements have over an extended period maintained industrial peace – the days when Ireland could have over a million working days lost in a year due to industrial action are long gone – while also producing a huge increase in national productivity, secured largely through extending the economically active workforce to sections of the population previously outside it.

Whether this framework remains fit for purpose is something we shall discover over the next while, but for now it has also placed at the heart of national development the two main bodies representing employers and trade unions: the Irish Business and Employers Confederation (IBEC) and the Irish Congress of Trade Unions (ICTU). And this week this blog has carried interviews with the two leading officers of both, Danny McCoy (IBEC) and David Begg (ICTU). Both men are, as I hope the interviews show, thoughtful and imaginative leaders, and both also have significant experience outside the bodies they now lead. Danny McCoy was both an academic and a much respected economist in the Economic and Social Research Institute; while David Begg was chief executive of Concern, the major international aid agency.

In the interviews, both men have raised an issue that perhaps needs to be discussed more actively: the relationship of the universities with these two organisations. The universities are members of IBEC, but perhaps not prominently so; they often have to deal with trade unions in a bargaining context, but on the other hand many of the social objectives trade unions pursue are also priorities of the higher education institutions.

So where therefore, in the overall social partnership scheme of things, do the universities fit it? Are they just organisations that, in some not always definable way, are represented at national talks without ever being prominently featured? Or could they be more active participants in their own right, setting out and defending the major educational and knowledge-based objectives that must now be part of national planning? Is it time to see the universities as active participants in this national dialogue, rather than just bystanders? Is it time that the universities themselves become much more deliberately active?

Interview with Danny McCoy

September 21, 2009

What follows is an interview I conducted last week with Danny McCoy, Director-General of the Irish Business and Employers Confederation (IBEC)


Taking account of your background in the Economic and Social Research Institute, as well as your role in IBEC, what is your view of the present economic outlook?

I think everyone realises that it is a fairly dire situation that the Irish economy is currently in. The collapse in the property market has been compounded by the international financial crisis. But I am actually quite confident about the Irish economy for the following reasons. The key economic numbers coming out of Ireland are horrific when seen in an international context, and the economy could fall by as much as 9 per cent this year, and cumulatively over the years 2009-2010 by as much as 15 per cent in real volume terms. The tragedy is that the unemployment numbers are rising from 4 per cent to 12 per cent, and they may go as high as 15 per cent. But that has to be seen against that backdrop that from 2004 to 2008 the labour force increased from 1.8 million to 2.1 million, adding nearly 350,000 extra people. That crash, and the adjustment process that is required as a result is enormous. But the good news, at least from my perspective, is that the adjustment has taken place quite rapidly.

The reason for this is that we are a practical, flexible people and are getting on with it, and while we may complain we have a coping capacity, and we can see the results of that becoming visible in the economy, with price adjustments and pay adjustments taking place. Ireland is beginning to restore its competitiveness, and our balance of payments will probably be in surplus by the end of 2009, with a fairly strong surplus in 2010. Our households are in a fairly strong position because of the accumulation over a long period of time of wealth. Lots of households are in distress in terms of liquidity, and that is why sorting out our banking crisis is really to the benefit of all of us. NAMA, while quite imperfect, is the only proposal of substance out there. Our international reputation has taken a huge battering, and we are paying an enormous price for that. We are paying a reputation premium of perhaps €400 million per annum, which would pay for an awful lot of public services.

All in all, I think that what is going on in the economy is quite positive, but there are some pieces in the jigsaw still to be put in place. But the picture is now emerging. Other societies are facing this as well, but they are a long way behind us.

You have mentioned NAMA [National Asset Management Agency]. Do you think it is the right way to go, given that there is a fair amount of public controversy around it?

I think NAMA is a very imperfect solution. But given the time and effort that has been put into setting it up, I think it has as good a chance of flying as any of the alternatives. Nobody can be sure of what the right solution is, but what we do know is that the biggest danger for us is that we might have a zombie banking system for a decade or more which would consign us to a period of misery. This is a solution that will hurt, but it is short and sharp and has a prospect of working. This proposal has been around for a long time, and we need to get on and do something now. I would be conditionally supportive of NAMA.

What other corrective measures are you still anticipating?

The government should continue with the scale of the adjustments that have been put in place. It has perhaps been under-acknowledged, but the government and Irish society in general have done what the IMF [International Monetary Fund] would have sought. The government will still have to correct the public finances over the next 3-4 years, as we need to get back to the target of a deficit 3 per cent of GDP by 2013. The hope is that as we have now already made adjustments, and as we’ll be making more in the Budget for 2010, the government may then not have to finish off the whole austerity programme, because if our competitiveness is right and global growth is resuming, the buoyancy of that may obviate the need to continue driving down our expenditure.

Turning now to higher education, one of the aspects of public discussion of the sector has been the question of the extent to which public funding should support the universities in general, and the research effort more specifically. An Bord Snip Nua recommended that there should be less of that expenditure. Do you have a view on that?

In terms of IBEC’s reaction to the McCarthy report, first of all we acknowledge the necessity of what the report is prescribing. One of the main benefits of the report has been that it has articulated to the people what some of our public expenditure actually funds in terms of tangible services. One area that we have highlighted as an area that should not be rowed back on is the expenditure on science, technology and innovation, because when we look at those countries which are competitive and have remained competitive through the downturn, such as Finland, we can see that at an earlier time of economic crisis they did not cut expenditure on innovation, and they came out of it well. The sceptics have a point when they say that some investment does not yield a return, but on the other hand a substantial proportion does. But also our international reputation has been built up over the past number of years as a good place for research and for technological innovation. I think it would be a retrograde step to pull back on that. We’ve built up the critical mass, and it can have an effect that will lift the nation through the spill-over from research into enterprise.

One of the issues in higher education right now is the question of the reintroduction of tuition fees. We are still not absolutely sure exactly what proposal the government is going to bring forward. Is there an IBEC view on what the correct approach would be

We have held the view for a long period of time that there should be a reintroduction of fees as part of the funding mechanisms for universities, to allow a reflection of value and choice as much as anything else for the participants. I think the income contingent loan model has most merit. It allows for the student to pay something back for the added value they are enjoying for their whole professional lifetime at a time when they are able. The problem is that people have grown used to an entitlement idea, but in the end no education is ever free.

Maybe I can turn to the relationship between IBEC and the universities. The universities are all members of IBEC and to a greater or lesser extent take part in its activities. Nevertheless, the level of engagement between IBEC and the universities has been limited. Should this be looked at again?

We would very much welcome deepening the relationship. However, it exists at many levels, and the universities’ use of the industrial relations support services of IBEC would be very active. In terms of policy development, I think that it has often been seen as a collaborative approach, conducted by two parts – universities and business. I think it might be better to see universities as innovation centres that support businesses, and that might be more sustainable. If you look at history, corporations tend to last for decades, while universities can continue for centuries; there may be some lessons for industry to be learnt from that. However, the collaborative approach has tended to be seen as being in two boxes, and we would be very keen in IBEC to try to break that down so that we can work on a common agenda. This can encourage an enterprise culture that gives rise to innovation, either through strategic alliances between specific companies and universities, or more importantly through the bringing together of the various forms of capital – human capital, physical capital, social capital and natural capital. And what glues all this together is enterprise. The objective therefore is to align the enterprise cultures in business and universities, and to bring university innovation into business. We’ll need to consider what kind of structure will support that particular relationship.

Do you believe we have an effective university system in Ireland? Are there things we should be doing better?

My main comment would be that we have an excessively artificial distinction in Ireland between education and training. We should really see it all in terms of human capital development. Perhaps there should also be a greater focus on differentiation and excellence in unique areas of academia and research and, by implication, avoidance of duplication of courses and research. However, I am optimistic that we will recognise that distinctions between education and training are not important. One of the benefits flowing from the spread of technology is that more people now have opportunities to learn through new media, and it will be important that universities respond to that flexibly. That is also where links between universities and business can provide real value.

Blog news

September 18, 2009

Over the coming week, this blog will carry two interviews: one with Danny McCoy, Director General of the Irish Business and Employers Confederation (IBEC), and the other with David Begg, General Secretary of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions. Both men are asked to comment on Ireland’s economic prospects, and on the relationships that exist between their organisations and the country’s universities. Danny McCoy expresses a guarded welcome of NAMA, while David Begg suggests we might look more closely at the Nordic countries in planning our future economic and social policies.

Over the following period, the blog will also feature interviews with Don Thornhill, Chair of the National Competitiveness Council and former Chair of the HEA, and Batt O’Keeffe TD, Minister for Education. In addition, the blog will feature a guest post by Tom Boland, Chief Executive of the Higher Education Authority.


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