The future for men – a PS

Following my recent blog post on the issues raised by under-achieving young men, today’s Guardian newspaper has a report which reveals that, in the UK, women are also more likely to find employment quickly after graduating from university, with a higher percentage in employment within six months. Admittedly, the percentage of those in full-time employment is about the same for men and women, but when you also factor in part-time and other kinds of employment, more women than men have jobs. The percentage of men who are unemployed – i.e. who have no job and don’t go on to take a higher degree – is greater than that of women.

However, the Guardian also reveals that more men than women go on to do postgraduate work. I am not absolutely sure what to read into that, but it is possible that it could indicate that the imbalance between men and women in senior posts will not be redressed as quickly as it should be. At any rate all the figures we have seen over the past week indicate that urgent attention needs to be given to gender issues in education.

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3 Comments on “The future for men – a PS”

  1. Wendymr Says:

    What I would want to know is what these jobs are that women are accepting. As you said yourself, the percentage employed in full-time positions is roughly equal for men and women; women are disproportionately (as always) employed in part-time, casual and short-term jobs. So are women graduates taking ‘survival’ jobs – jobs below their level of qualification? And what’s happening one, two and five years later: are the women who took these jobs still working at a level below their qualification? And where are the men and women who got full-time jobs in their areas of qualification? Who’s been promoted and who hasn’t?

    Yes, it’s interesting, and perhaps concerning, if men are now struggling to find jobs; but it’s not as simple as the headline suggests and a lot more data needs to be analysed before we can state that men now, rather than women, are disadvantaged in access to employment.

  2. Vincent Says:

    Are you not making this issue a bit simpler than it actually is in reality.
    There are very strong social influences kicking in also. And it helps no one if we all get up on high horses and gallop of to tilt at ephemeral windmills. Similar stances are taken with the numbers of TDs in the Dail and the number of MPs at the other place. But any look at the numbers in the medical profession, hardly known for its lack of cash, difficulty of working conditions nor its position on the notional social scale, exposes blatantly that given the choice women doctors will stop work completely very soon after full training is completed. If the dropout percentages were transferred to your first years, you would certainly consider that you have a very serious problem on your hands. But the causes would have absolutely nothing to do with you, and no matter how much tinkering around you would do with the system, it would not change a thing.
    As to that Newspaper report, just because one hands a Degree scroll to 1000 people, the only fact useful for statistical purposes, all will have the same headache finding a frame of the correct proportion to put the thing. Back in the day when all who attended were the spawn of a very narrow strata there may have been a point, but now it’s just pseudo-science bull-whistle.

  3. Mark Dowling Says:

    Dr von P – have you asked the DCU Alumni association what their surveys tell them?


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